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Since there were no Beornings at the time of the hobbit I assumed they were one people that divided (but kept their cultural ties) by the time of the War and they had a relatively stable population (a great achievement given the evil things that were on the increase in Mirkwood).Īrmy of Lorien 3,500-4,000.

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Given the inferior fighting qualities of orcs it would still require a significant force (say half the number as the orc host plus they would not have left their homes unguarded. The woodmen got together a force to contest the 2,000+ orcs that attacked Isildur and his 200 man guard. This is based on the incident of Isildur's death as told in UT. This area had been severely depopulated but was since on the mend since the demise of Smaug. about half the size of Rohan or a little bigger than Lebinin in Gondor. A look at the map shows that the logical bounds for such a realm are the rivers Running and Redwater. There were 500 dwarves, 1,000 elf-spearmen (and my estimated 1,000 elf-bowmen) so I would anticiapte that the dwarves and elves together were at least near to the size of the elf wing say 1,000 men plus the 500 dwarves) and the fact that Gimli states that King Brand ruled 'many men' and his land extended south and east. This is a tenous number based on Bard's force at the battle of Five Armies, the men and dwarves were in one wing and the elves in the other. 2,000 This is based on the strength of Dain's force at the battle of Five Armies 500 axe bearing dwarves (a force solely from the iron Hills), the fact that Thorin requested that the ravens bear word to his kin in the north, west and east (of whom only the iron Hills dwarves had arrived) and the fact that Gimli states that they had increased in strength by the time of the War of the Ring.Īrmy of Dale. This is based on his strength at the Battle of Five Armies where he had 1,000 elvish spearmen and the estimate of 1,000 bowmen (the bow being the best known weapon of the Wood Elves) and the determination that he would not have left his forest stronghold unguarded (a reasonable gues that he would not have taken any more than 2/3 of his available warriors).Īrmy of Dain. This is also based on the approximate size of the garrison of Minas Tirith (after being reinforced from the fiefs) which I reckon at about 6,000 (3,000 from the fiefs and the estimate of 3,000 in the usual garrison-based on Aragorn's statments at Last Debate on the strength coming up from the South and the number of defenders being left behind being at least as strong as prior to the siege.Īrmy of Thranduil. In Medieval armies the vanguard is almost universally 1/3 of the total force. This is based on Imrahil's comment at the last debate that the size of the force they were sending against Mordor (seven thousand) was scarcely the size of the vanguard of the army in the days of its strength.

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It also states that doubtless many more than 12,000 could be mustered so that Theoden would not leave his strongholds undefended even if he did ride with the full muster to Gondor.Īrmy of Gondor.

This was the easiest because UT states plainly that the full muster of Rohan was 100 eoreds each not less than 120 riders. My sources are the LOTR trilogy, the Hobbit and Unfinished Tales.Īrmy of Rohan. I would like to run my conclusions past the readers and participants of the forum to see if anyone has any additional information to add or suggestions to make. It has long been an interest of mine to determine the approximate size of the armies of Middle Earth aournd the time of the War of the Ring.

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